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Nightjar wrote:

Celebrities that, despite being good looking (indeed genuinely beautiful) are not really photogenic.

i.e. people who're poetry-in-motion and/or possibly even stunning with no make up etc, but who always look like they're either like a grinning carousel horse/having a stroke/etc when the aperture dilates and the shutter slams down...

I have a particular person in mind where both these things are concerned.

On film and all she makes me swoon, but at premiers and in glossy photoshoots she looks like a gurning chimpanzee with the whole Boots No.7 range plastered across her face.

Hmmm. An interesting point of view.

I can only speak for myself (and every woman I've ever spoken to about this, which is almost all of them). I have never - really, never - applied make up and thought 'I hope men or a particular man likes this'.

My most fundamental thought is, now I look like a more groomed version of myself so I feel better. If you feel better you look better, generally speaking. But the feeling comes first, the look is just a byproduct.

I will admit that sometimes - not often - but sometimes, I think 'X,Y,Z b**ch hasn't got nearly as great an eyebrow arch as my beautician has styled'. Or 'that is some eyeliner skill with I've been blessed with'.

My primary motivation is that I enjoy what I look like and feel like with make up*. A very long way down from that is what other women might make of it. Genuinely never have I thought, a man will like or dislike this look.

*To that end, when working from home, alone, I usually apply full make up before I can sit down at my laptop and type anything of quality. For male visitors, I don't care - although I always wear mascara and eyeliner...

Not because they are men and I want to be attractive to them, but for myself. Since the age of 12 only my brother, my gran and my son have seen me without mascara and eyeliner. I've even applied both to vomit alone in the privacy of my bathroom.

Despite preferring smoky kohl to painted on liner, I did forego the former for the waterproof latter for childbirth. For the gratification of a man - it's never entered into my thought process. I freely admit other things have. But not make up.

Actually, I'd go even further than that...

Kind of like peacocks, young men (under 30 I'd say) are more brightly coloured than women tend to be, and are most often actually prettier when you really compare the two...

The lips are brighter (and 99/100 an exact match for much more private districts - helmet etc), the flush is greater, the eyes are deeper. They look incredible when they wake up first thing. They can get away with tangled bed hair, bleary eyes, etc.

Women generally can't and don't - whether it's nature/hormonal, or that so many are anaemic due to menstruation, or a real human equivalence to the peacock situation, or a combo of all that and more, who can say?

The other thing that can't not be said is that the 'natural' no make up look is very often anything but, and takes far more time and care to achieve than grabbing a trowel and using it to plaster on every form of paint known to MAC.

I have often said as much, and my temple of male beauty provides ample evidence of the heartbreakingly phenomenal beauty of young men. Something they are sadly taught to under appreciate in themselves and that society pretends isn't so.

Name that Chesterfield!

Is it Sophie Dahl?

See, it would just be too easy.

'Have you ever carried a tape deck on your shoulder for that fashionable look?'

Flights of fancy. Inspired by my thought that it's too late to retrain as an actress and co-star with Timothee Chalamet in a film that will forever be celebrated globally for the white heat of chemistry between us, and as the beginning of the 21st century Burton and Taylor.

Nightjar wrote:

Celebrities who (despite not necessarily being so) just look really thick.

Celebs who look really THICC

Birds that look like Ringo

Throbbing Neck veins the Megathread!

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"Small Tool Factories Named After American Horror Writers."



Edgar Allen Co.

People that look like their jumpers

Singers Named After Ancient Civilisations.

The only one I could think of was Donna Sumer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_Babies



There's no end of them.

Any group who had a Greatest Hittites album.

The Canaanites

That Duran Duran spin off, Akkadian

Sting's solo album 10 Sumerian's Tales