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The Call of the Wendigo Admin
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:32 pm | |
| https://twitter.com/reviewwales/status/1550368293348814848 _________________ |
| | | The Call of the Wendigo Admin
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:49 pm | |
| Paul Simon released his first single in 1958. _________________ |
| | | Nightjar
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:10 pm | |
| Was that when he was called Ben & Jerrys? _________________ The jibbedy-jabber-jaw jabbing at your funny bone, umm... Skip the Ovaltine, I'd rather have my honeycomb
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| | | The Call of the Wendigo Admin
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:50 pm | |
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| | | The Call of the Wendigo Admin
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:50 pm | |
| He released his first "Tom and Jerry" single in 1957. _________________ |
| | | The Call of the Wendigo Admin
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:04 pm | |
| https://twitter.com/KaptanHindustan/status/1550865189481787392 _________________ |
| | | cosmictanya
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:16 pm | |
| In schools in the USA, Billy Joel's 'We Didn't Start The Fire' is used to teach modern history, and introduce the class to the things they'll be looking at that term.
Pretty decent template...
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenberg’s, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen Marciano, Liberace, Santayana Goodbye
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc
Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dacron Dien Bien Phu Falls, Rock Around the Clock
Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland
Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev Princess Grace, Peyton Place, Trouble in the Suez
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, Bridge on the River Kwai
Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California Baseball Starkweather Homicide, Children of Thalidomide
Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia Hula Hoops, Castro, Edsel is a No-Go
U-2, Synghman Rhee, Payola and Kennedy Chubby Checker, Psycho, Belgians in the Congo
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
Hemingway, Eichmann, Stranger in a Strange Land Bob Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs Invasion
Lawrence of Arabia, British Beatlemania Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston Beats Patterson
Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British Politician Sex JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say?
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, Punk-Rock
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan
Wheel of Fortune, Sally Ride, Heavy Metal, Suicide Foreign Debts, Homeless Vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shore, China's under martial law Rock and Roller Cola Wars, I can't take it anymore
We didn't start the fire, It was always burnin', Since the world's been turnin' We didn't start the fire, But when we are gone Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on...
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't... |
| | | The Call of the Wendigo Admin
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:22 am | |
| "British Politician Sex," has always struck me as being a very non-specific line.
I've always assumed he meant John Profumo but couldn't remember his name. _________________ |
| | | cosmictanya
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:04 pm | |
| Doesn't really fit in the song.
You'd need a six syllable phrase to replace it with. Maybe 'Christine Keeler got f***ed'. Or 'Rice Davies coins a phrase'. |
| | | Fangirl Three
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:45 pm | |
| 'John Profumo got his oats' _________________ ' "Haven't got houses." Where do they live then?'
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| | | cosmictanya
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:46 pm | |
| - Fangirl Three wrote:
- 'John Profumo got his oats'
That's seven. |
| | | SiberianPrincess’sMidriff
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:40 pm | |
| - The Call of the Wendigo wrote:
https://twitter.com/reviewwales/status/1550368293348814848 _________________ I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird strange, sick, twisted, eerie, Godless, evil stuff…
And I want in |
| | | Fangirl Three
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:58 pm | |
| - cosmictanya wrote:
- Fangirl Three wrote:
- 'John Profumo got his oats'
That's seven. 'British politician sex' has 7 syllables. Bri-tish po-li-ti-cian sex. _________________ ' "Haven't got houses." Where do they live then?'
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| | | Nightjar
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:50 pm | |
| I really detest that Joel song.
Like so many of his songs, lyrically, they contain a really unsavoury, chest-beating/self-pitying/misanthropic subtext.
WDSTF is basically a mealy-mouthed, jingoistic, reactionary attempt to eschew America's part in the many atrocities and political crimes they committed in the 20th century and, what's more, defend and promote the hollow notion that they instead 'tried to fight' the kind of injustices they were equally responsible for.
Just throw in loads of 'flip' cultural references and names of celebrities, juxtaposed with social and international calamities and book-end it all with a truly pathetic, self-pitying, tantrumy whine of "I can't take it anymore" and you've got the perfect Billy Joel song.
For example, no mention of Operation Condor in there I notice.
I really detest Billy Joel.
And I'm not the only one. _________________ The jibbedy-jabber-jaw jabbing at your funny bone, umm... Skip the Ovaltine, I'd rather have my honeycomb
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| | | SiberianPrincess’sMidriff
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:06 pm | |
| Wot a Hater! _________________ I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird strange, sick, twisted, eerie, Godless, evil stuff…
And I want in |
| | | Nightjar
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:13 pm | |
| _________________ The jibbedy-jabber-jaw jabbing at your funny bone, umm... Skip the Ovaltine, I'd rather have my honeycomb
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| | | cosmictanya
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:18 pm | |
| - Fangirl Three wrote:
- cosmictanya wrote:
- Fangirl Three wrote:
- 'John Profumo got his oats'
That's seven. 'British politician sex' has 7 syllables. Bri-tish po-li-ti-cian sex.
Oh yes, you're right. |
| | | cosmictanya
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:19 pm | |
| - Nightjar wrote:
- I really detest that Joel song.
Like so many of his songs, lyrically, they contain a really unsavoury, chest-beating/self-pitying/misanthropic subtext.
WDSTF is basically a mealy-mouthed, jingoistic, reactionary attempt to eschew America's part in the many atrocities and political crimes they committed in the 20th century and, what's more, defend and promote the hollow notion that they instead 'tried to fight' the kind of injustices they were equally responsible for.
Just throw in loads of 'flip' cultural references and names of celebrities, juxtaposed with social and international calamities and book-end it all with a truly pathetic, self-pitying, tantrumy whine of "I can't take it anymore" and you've got the perfect Billy Joel song.
For example, no mention of Operation Condor in there I notice.
I really detest Billy Joel.
And I'm not the only one. Oh FFS. It's not as if the British were uninvolved, although I'd doubt knowledge of that approaches what it does among the Americans, where a decent half or so of the population are fully receptive to critiques of what was done in their name in Latin America - and tens of millions are actually from there. Right now, there are two people all over the UK media, fighting for the honour of which one most resembles the woman who sanctioned and fully supported all this torture and repression and mass murder. Do most British people know or care? No and no. You can't blame Billy Joel for that. |
| | | cosmictanya
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:57 pm | |
| Whether the charge is blind ignorance or willful misrepresentation, a British person isn't able to stand on the moral high ground over an American. That's like Myra Hindley saying Rose West should never have been around children.
It's a song. I thought it was interesting that it's used as a teaching aid. You didn't need to do all this. Whether it's music, or art, there you've been waiting to cast scathing remarks about how nobody else knows what they're talking about.
On the subject of things there was no need for, I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm actually more annoyed than I was at the time - there was no need for you to use my sons name on this public website. That was totally unfair. It's not on. |
| | | Nightjar
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| Subject: Re: Breaking learning thread Part 2. Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:42 pm | |
| - cosmictanya wrote:
- On the subject of things there was no need for, I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm actually more annoyed than I was at the time - there was no need for you to use my sons name on this public website. That was totally unfair. It's not on.
_________________ The jibbedy-jabber-jaw jabbing at your funny bone, umm... Skip the Ovaltine, I'd rather have my honeycomb
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