The NEW, "What's that in your eyeballs?" thread. Part 11
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A beautiful Romulan commander convinces Spock to turn against Kirk.
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Brighton Rock is on TalkingPicturesTV.
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TalkingPicturesTV is showing a Reg Varney movie at 11:50.
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Jane Moore, former Murdoch employee, is on Channel 4 doing an anti smoking programme and has somehow managed to wangle a trip to Indonesia out of it. I suppose the train to Ipswich was cancelled.
The story so far is that Phillip Morris International has a vested interest in not going bankrupt. Who'd have thought.
The story so far is that Phillip Morris International has a vested interest in not going bankrupt. Who'd have thought.
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Newsnight. A sad and squalid story, I really don't get the call for smiles and celebrations.
Found guilty yes, but we have MP's who are guilty and are still in place (and in at least one case was invited back for his vote). The pig in the White House who laughingly admitted guilt and was still elected. Royals, with full security teams and PR experts, not even realising anything is amiss or that the legal onus is on you to make sure the person you employ, house, have sex with, take to nightclubs, find upstairs in your friends bedroom etc hasn't been trafficked. Guilty people everywhere you care to look.
And this annoys me - MeToo was started 15 years ago by an African American woman and nobody cares until some Hollywood actors blew it up. I do also feel that her motivation for ending endemic sexual violence for/by both/all genders has been lost. A black voice and its purpose has been completely steamrollered, which is part of the same problem about power structures. I agree with Germaine Greer here - the underpinning of the whole thing from top to bottom is sick, sexist (and working both against, and in some situations for, women), and cynical.
I'm loathe to align anything with MRA, but women do get away with this in a far bigger way than society is comfortable with. Cher took the virginity of an apparently 13 year old Anthony Kiedes while babysitting him. Madonna wrote about asking her hot teenage Puerto Rican neighbour to strip so she could assess the quantity of pubic hair and decide on that basis whether to have sex with him. Neither of them have become lepers.
And neither sex has a monopoly on manipulating people into doing things they'd rather not, or think they should because someone else wants to, or feels unfriendly or cold or impolite about refusing. The assumption that rests on, men do, women are done to, is fundamentally offensive.
I have always said if two (or more) adults want to, they should. And that the common charge of the female being 'easy' doesn't make any sense. You're either both up for it, or it's impossible outside a criminal act.
Consent is not complicated. Very wise words. Let's see that broadened out in full. And don't get me started on the tedium of the 'fight' for equal pay for performers at differing levels of fame and crowd appeal. It is in no agents interest to undersell their client and reduce their own income by doing so.
Found guilty yes, but we have MP's who are guilty and are still in place (and in at least one case was invited back for his vote). The pig in the White House who laughingly admitted guilt and was still elected. Royals, with full security teams and PR experts, not even realising anything is amiss or that the legal onus is on you to make sure the person you employ, house, have sex with, take to nightclubs, find upstairs in your friends bedroom etc hasn't been trafficked. Guilty people everywhere you care to look.
And this annoys me - MeToo was started 15 years ago by an African American woman and nobody cares until some Hollywood actors blew it up. I do also feel that her motivation for ending endemic sexual violence for/by both/all genders has been lost. A black voice and its purpose has been completely steamrollered, which is part of the same problem about power structures. I agree with Germaine Greer here - the underpinning of the whole thing from top to bottom is sick, sexist (and working both against, and in some situations for, women), and cynical.
I'm loathe to align anything with MRA, but women do get away with this in a far bigger way than society is comfortable with. Cher took the virginity of an apparently 13 year old Anthony Kiedes while babysitting him. Madonna wrote about asking her hot teenage Puerto Rican neighbour to strip so she could assess the quantity of pubic hair and decide on that basis whether to have sex with him. Neither of them have become lepers.
And neither sex has a monopoly on manipulating people into doing things they'd rather not, or think they should because someone else wants to, or feels unfriendly or cold or impolite about refusing. The assumption that rests on, men do, women are done to, is fundamentally offensive.
I have always said if two (or more) adults want to, they should. And that the common charge of the female being 'easy' doesn't make any sense. You're either both up for it, or it's impossible outside a criminal act.
Consent is not complicated. Very wise words. Let's see that broadened out in full. And don't get me started on the tedium of the 'fight' for equal pay for performers at differing levels of fame and crowd appeal. It is in no agents interest to undersell their client and reduce their own income by doing so.
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I had a dreadful argument with that thing over on the other place which still annoys me. His contention being that women are privileged by being less likely to be homeless (in the using soup kitchens and sleeping in doorways sense of the word). Totally ignoring, amongst other things, that the law considers anyone who is only housed due to offering sexual favours to the householder or submitting to repeated assaults of various types, IS legally homeless.
One of the others attempted to argue in all seriousness that the Brixton riots were caused by territorial black youths who objected to white regentrification. That kind of misunderstanding of every last factor takes some doing.
Yes, Newsnight. A much more forensic examination of all this is in order, and Emily Maitlis is the right presenter to do so, but she didn't do it tonight. Excellent highlights and blow dry as ever.
One of the others attempted to argue in all seriousness that the Brixton riots were caused by territorial black youths who objected to white regentrification. That kind of misunderstanding of every last factor takes some doing.
Yes, Newsnight. A much more forensic examination of all this is in order, and Emily Maitlis is the right presenter to do so, but she didn't do it tonight. Excellent highlights and blow dry as ever.
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Frank on BBC2 has been banned from his nearest hospital for a period of one year, and any ambulance will take him elsewhere unless it's 'life threatening'. Some might say his complex problems and needs are very much life threatening.
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Well that's how I feel about what I've watched. Orthodoxies that can't be questioned or discussed without you being damned or ostracized are dangerous.
There's Katherine Johnson dead at 101. Incredible, practically unknown outside her own milieu I'd say. I had never heard of her. Far more inspiring than the latest victim parade speaking only for rich white well connected people who didn't give a toss until it happened to them, and the $ risk reward tipped from 'heard and saw nothing' to 'breach NDA as fast as possible'.
As is so often the case with human/cultural behaviour, we should be looking to the French who understand shades of grey, and to people from further south than that whose climates allow joy to influence society, rather than wallowing in a puritanical Anglo witch hunt.
None of which detracts from the fact that vulnerable people have seen some justice, and good for them.
There's Katherine Johnson dead at 101. Incredible, practically unknown outside her own milieu I'd say. I had never heard of her. Far more inspiring than the latest victim parade speaking only for rich white well connected people who didn't give a toss until it happened to them, and the $ risk reward tipped from 'heard and saw nothing' to 'breach NDA as fast as possible'.
As is so often the case with human/cultural behaviour, we should be looking to the French who understand shades of grey, and to people from further south than that whose climates allow joy to influence society, rather than wallowing in a puritanical Anglo witch hunt.
None of which detracts from the fact that vulnerable people have seen some justice, and good for them.
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Now to see what's on the telly tonight.
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Jon Bon Jovi is on The One Show.
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Beetlejuice is on 5Star, at 9.
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Nigella Bites is on the Food Channel.
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7-of-9 is being bombarded by flashbacks.
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When drones from her former group board the Enterprise.
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Two Way Stretch is on TalkingPicturesTV at 7:15.
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"Zero Dark Thirty" on ITV 4
Bit grim.
Bit grim.
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I wonder what happens??
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Now to see what's on the telly right now.
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