Re: Public Image Ltd. - Album (1986)

by Nightjar Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:39 pm

Old Tommy Knockers had a lot of nerve slagging of Glen Matlock for being an old fart muso...

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:39 pm

I don't think time has been kind. sad yes

Rise is still GR8 though.

by Nightjar Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:40 pm

Nightjar wrote:Shades of Kashmir.

Right on cue...

Hideous live version of Kashmir as a bonus track. cringe

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:40 pm

Maybe it would have worked better as a John Lydon solo album?

I never got around to listening to a Psycho's Path.

That's what happens if you only release something on CD. yes

by **The Call of the Wendigo** Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:41 pm

It is over.

I must confess I enjoyed that, thanks to the totally tasteless drumming and guitarring but can't help feel John Lydon was out of place. I do suspect the rest of them would've been happier if they'd replaced him with Robert Palmer and released it as a Power Station album.

Now to look back over the thread and see what everybody else made of it. Excited

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:41 pm

Nightjar wrote:
Nightjar wrote:Shades of Kashmir.

Right on cue...

Hideous live version of Kashmir as a bonus track.

I think he was being, ironic.

by **The Call of the Wendigo** Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:41 pm

I shall give it 3 stars.

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:42 pm

I had to give it 3, otherwise what could I give 9?

scared

9 was ok, at least compared to 'That What Is Not'

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by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:49 pm

Guest‎‎‏‏‎ ‎ wrote:I've just noticed that tracks 34 onwards are the demo versions,

This is ok I guess. That clicky-clicky rhythm guitar, does that really need to be everywhere?

They're much better.

dance

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

by Nightjar Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:00 pm

I didn't enjoy that very much at all.

That said, I never enjoyed any PIL albums really.

That's not the point though.

They weren't really ever designed to be an entertaining band - rather an audaciously original and uncompromising one.

Very dynamic, very hard-edged musically and snidely amusing and oblique lyrically.

This however was largely unenjoyable in the wrong kind of way.

I have some of Laswell's stuff - as well as some of the side-projects and associated band's material - but I've never been able to love any of it.

Most of it is essentially like the meticulously overwrought art-jazz-fusion of the '70s, but with a horrible '80s aural aesthetic.

The worst of both worlds.

And Little Sammy Snotbox lets them all in the studio under the guise of being PIL.

A bunch of c***s trying?

A bunch of w*nkers trying too hard more like. sad yes

by Fangirl Three Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:47 am

Guest‎‎‏‏‎ ‎ wrote:I loved this one at the tyme!

Look, compare it what in the charts in 1986!

Rise is/was ace.

by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:08 am

Possibly my fav. group for a time, when I was, err... young. shifty

The ones after this one were err... In some way if they'd never released Metal box and Flowers of Romance would have been fine quirky alt-rockers, but they could have done so much better.

I kinda liked the comeback one, but in the same way Red Dwarf returns on Dave were better than series 8 and 9, they were like the good ones in tone and intent. I mean they weren't any good, but they got by being like the good one.

Not heard the last album, I got put off by that cover of Lucifer Sam that got retitled as 'Betty Page'.

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